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Take the Downtown Train
By Paul Ford

25 May 2004

If more men know what’s under the hood of a car than the hood of a clitoris, surely a revolution is needed. Enthusiast Paul Ford interviews Ian Kerner, sex therapist and author of She Comes First: The Thinking Man’s Guide to Pleasuring a Woman.

In 1997, Ian Kerner was my supervisor at an ‘internet strategy’ firm that evaporated in the dot-com crash. I hadn’t heard from him in years, but a few months ago, I asked a mutual friend what Ian was up to.

Ian, I learned, had left the internet behind to become a sex therapist (Ph.D. Sexology, American Academy of Clinical Sexologists). He’d married, had a son, and was also about to publish the definitive guide to the theory and practice of cunnilingus. My friend had just read a draft. ‘I thought I was skilled,’ my friend said. He looked into the middle distance. ‘But I learned a lot.’

She Comes First: The Thinking Man’s Guide to Pleasuring a Woman (HarperCollins) is billed as a ‘sexual manifesto that inspires men to give and empowers women to receive.’ It’s Kerner’s attempt to seed a new sexual revolution, one with a focus on female sexual entitlement. In 47 short chapters with titles like ‘The Cunnilinguist Manifesto’ and ‘Think Outside Her Box,’ the book seeks to be the first mass-market philosophical, cultural, and scientific guide to the clitoris. (And make no mistake, it’s all about the clitoris.) I caught up with Ian at Terra 47 on 12th Street in Manhattan to discuss his career shift, and followed up via email.

The Morning News: Why The Thinking Man’s Guide? This implies that men can think when it comes to sex, which is at best a hypothesis.
Ian Kerner: I think most guys know more about what’s under the hood of a car than under the hood of a clitoris. I want to see men shift their behaviors and become ‘cliterate.’

TMN: Isn’t this kind of Our Bodies, Ourselves? Do women really want men who are vagina-centric? The sort of men who wear sweaters and have little beards and cry?
IK: All right, yes, I draw a lot from pioneers in feminist thought and sexual understanding. But most feminist thinking about sexuality circulates within a narrow circle of influence. It’s often stereotyped as being shrill, but there are many powerful ideas that I think men will get excited about, which is one of the reasons I wrote the book.

TMN: So men will get better play if they change their approach.
IK: Yes. Knowledge and technique can demystify the female orgasm, which is good for everyone. But to get there, guys have to break through the ‘intercourse-discourse’ and start thinking in new ways about sexual pleasure. If I could, I’d declare June Sexual Cliteracy Month, make a holiday out of it.

TMN: We could have a parade down Broadway to celebrate, right? Mayor Bloomberg is wearing a pink fedora, and you have these huge vulva floats, and the fire department is keeping everything wet.
IK: [waits patiently]

TMN: I’d hate to clean up after, though. Anyway, OK. This started with your struggle with premature ejaculation.
IK: Yes. I’m a premature ejaculator. Was, am – it’s sort of like being an alcoholic. You can manage it, and achieve sexual health and contentment, but it’s always tempered with self-control.

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